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		<title>Comment on 2. Story of a Fighter Pilot: The Story of Cadet Matthew Joseph La Porte by Mark Young II</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Young II</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 05:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My brother was there when this went down.  He too was in the VT Corps of Cadets and heard this story of bravery throughout the Corps.  I agree wholeheartedly that there should be recognition  for Matt!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My brother was there when this went down.  He too was in the <span class="caps">VT </span>Corps of Cadets and heard this story of bravery throughout the Corps.  I agree wholeheartedly that there should be recognition  for Matt!</p>
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		<title>Comment on 2. Story of a Fighter Pilot: The Story of Cadet Matthew Joseph La Porte by An actual Fighter pilot</title>
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		<dc:creator>An actual Fighter pilot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 13:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly, he probabaly would have ended up a great cargo plane pilot since most of the fighter spots go to AF academy cadets, not ROTC kids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly, he probabaly would have ended up a great cargo plane pilot since most of the fighter spots go to AF academy cadets, not <span class="caps">ROTC</span> kids.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Air War Vietnam: Remembrance at 40 Years &#8211; All Days Come From One Day by David (Snake) Kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>David (Snake) Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2012 00:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boris, this is a great start.  Now you just need to start writing short vignettes covering some of your missions, experiences, and emergencies.  I did that and then knitted them together.  I have over 300 pages!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boris, this is a great start.  Now you just need to start writing short vignettes covering some of your missions, experiences, and emergencies.  I did that and then knitted them together.  I have over 300 pages!</p>
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		<title>Comment on 1. The Pilot&#8217;s Story: Bruce Kallsen VA-115 by Bob Lopez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Lopez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 01:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry forgot the e in my email address, it is relopez1202@yahoo.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry forgot the e in my email address, it is <a href="mailto:relopez1202@yahoo.com">relopez1202@yahoo.com</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on 1. The Pilot&#8217;s Story: Bruce Kallsen VA-115 by Ed Beakley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Beakley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 06:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob,
I tried to e-mail you with the yahoo address that was on the e-mail notification, but it got kicked back.

Appreciate your comments and get me an e-mail if you will.

Don&#039;t know on the Plat tapes and not sure how to get, maybe accident center???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob,<br />
I tried to e-mail you with the yahoo address that was on the e-mail notification, but it got kicked back.</p>
<p>Appreciate your comments and get me an e-mail if you will.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t know on the Plat tapes and not sure how to get, maybe accident center???</p>
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		<title>Comment on 1. The Pilot&#8217;s Story: Bruce Kallsen VA-115 by Bob Lopez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Lopez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 02:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonder if the Navy has a copy of this Plat video and would allow it to be seen?</description>
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		<title>Comment on 1. The Pilot&#8217;s Story: Bruce Kallsen VA-115 by David (Snake) Kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>David (Snake) Kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 22:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bruce &amp; Ed,
We all live through this tragic event, but like anything happening real-time, there are many perspectives.  Here is mine:

When the accident occurred, I was in Ready 5.  I believe I had been on the previous launch, and was still in my flight suit.  I remember seeing the plane just after touchdown and realized something was terribly wrong based on right-wing down attitude.  As the plat image transitioned to the rollout perspective, we could see the aircraft in plan-view traveling up the deck engulfed in sparks.  At the same time we could hear the stub or the right main mount scraping along the deck just over our heads.  (Watching this unfold real-time and knowing the outcome had to be dreadful, was very sobering.  It felt like being in a very bad dream and realizing you had absolutely no control over the outcome.)

I had no further involvement with the accident until later in the evening.  The two dentists on the ship had a stateroom around the corner from Mike McCormick and me.  When I would fly those night, low-level, deep penetration mission and come back pretty hopped-up, I would stop by their room, and they would ‘prescribe’ and provide a couple of fingers of scotch.  When this took hold, I could relax.

Based on the number of victims and the limited medical staff aboard ship, the dentists had been called in to aid the medical staff following the accident.  One of the dentists was a 6-year dentist, i.e., he had two years of undergraduate work, and then did a 4-year dental program.  He was 24 years old. 

When I visited their stateroom several hours after the accident, they were both pretty drained.  This is when I learned they had been part of the medical effort.  The young dentist told me that he had amputated someone’s leg.  He said that he had never worked on a ‘live’ patient, and his only exposure to human bodies (other than the mouth) had been with a cadaver during an anatomy class in first-year dental school.  He was pretty traumatized.  I ‘prescribed’ two-fingers of scotch for him!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruce &#038; Ed,<br />
We all live through this tragic event, but like anything happening real-time, there are many perspectives.  Here is mine:</p>
<p>When the accident occurred, I was in Ready 5.  I believe I had been on the previous launch, and was still in my flight suit.  I remember seeing the plane just after touchdown and realized something was terribly wrong based on right-wing down attitude.  As the plat image transitioned to the rollout perspective, we could see the aircraft in plan-view traveling up the deck engulfed in sparks.  At the same time we could hear the stub or the right main mount scraping along the deck just over our heads.  (Watching this unfold real-time and knowing the outcome had to be dreadful, was very sobering.  It felt like being in a very bad dream and realizing you had absolutely no control over the outcome.)</p>
<p>I had no further involvement with the accident until later in the evening.  The two dentists on the ship had a stateroom around the corner from Mike McCormick and me.  When I would fly those night, low-level, deep penetration mission and come back pretty hopped-up, I would stop by their room, and they would &#8216;prescribe&#8217; and provide a couple of fingers of scotch.  When this took hold, I could relax.</p>
<p>Based on the number of victims and the limited medical staff aboard ship, the dentists had been called in to aid the medical staff following the accident.  One of the dentists was a 6-year dentist, i.e., he had two years of undergraduate work, and then did a 4-year dental program.  He was 24 years old.</p>
<p>When I visited their stateroom several hours after the accident, they were both pretty drained.  This is when I learned they had been part of the medical effort.  The young dentist told me that he had amputated someone&#8217;s leg.  He said that he had never worked on a &#8216;live&#8217; patient, and his only exposure to human bodies (other than the mouth) had been with a cadaver during an anatomy class in first-year dental school.  He was pretty traumatized.  I &#8216;prescribed&#8217; two-fingers of scotch for him!</p>
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		<title>Comment on 1. The Pilot&#8217;s Story: Bruce Kallsen VA-115 by Bart Bartholomay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bart Bartholomay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 14:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bruce -

I&#039;ve heard that story from a number of people, and I was also part of it, watching live on the plat in Ready 6. I didn&#039;t know Bix well, but I did fly a number of hops with him on Alpha Strikes. It was truly a catastrophic series of events that wound up with what I&#039;d call minimal injuries given the nature of what happened. But Bix&#039;s death was tough for us all in the Air Wing, not just you &quot;Tack Pukes.

One thing you may not recall, when your A/C careened up the axial you also knock VF-161&#039;s F-4B, #110, off it&#039;s chocks. I can&#039;t remember specifically if this was also the plane CAG had just flown, but I don&#039;t think so. I think you hit 110 just prior to hitting CAG&#039;s plane. Nevertheless, when the &quot;man overboard&quot; was finally instituted and the ship went into it&#039;s hard starboard turn to go back and try to retrieve Bix, I had, by that time, made my way up to pri-fly and was looking down at the flight deck. Well, there was #110, the plane I flew in the MiG-19 shoot 5 moths prior, slipping back toward the crotch between the angle and the axial only to be gobbled up by the Gulf of Tonkin as it tumbled off the flight deck.

I&#039;ve told this story many times since, but never heard your version, a version that brought back to mind the perils of the job and the amazing heroics of our top-notch Midway crew.

Thanks for sharing it with us shipmates.

Bart
VF-161, CAG-5, USS Midway &#039;71, &#039;72</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruce &#8211;<br />
I&#8217;ve heard that story from a number of people, and I was also part of it, watching live on the plat in Ready 6. I didn&#8217;t know Bix well, but I did fly a number of hops with him on Alpha Strikes. It was truly a catastrophic series of events that wound up with what I&#8217;d call minimal injuries given the nature of what happened. But Bix&#8217;s death was tough for us all in the Air Wing, not just you &#8220;Tack Pukes.</p>
<p>One thing you may not recall, when your A/C careened up the axial you also knock VF-161&#8217;s F-4B, #110, off it&#8217;s chocks. I can&#8217;t remember specifically if this was also the plane <span class="caps">CAG</span> had just flown, but I don&#8217;t think so. I think you hit 110 just prior to hitting <span class="caps">CAG</span>&#8217;s plane. Nevertheless, when the &#8220;man overboard&#8221; was finally instituted and the ship went into it&#8217;s hard starboard turn to go back and try to retrieve Bix, I had, by that time, made my way up to pri-fly and was looking down at the flight deck. Well, there was #110, the plane I flew in the MiG-19 shoot 5 moths prior, slipping back toward the crotch between the angle and the axial only to be gobbled up by the Gulf of Tonkin as it tumbled off the flight deck.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve told this story many times since, but never heard your version, a version that brought back to mind the perils of the job and the amazing heroics of our top-notch Midway crew.</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing it with us shipmates.</p>
<p>Bart<br />
VF-161, <span class="caps">CAG</span>-5, <span class="caps">USS </span>Midway &#8216;71, &#8216;72</p>
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		<title>Comment on 1. The Pilot&#8217;s Story: Bruce Kallsen VA-115 by Bob Lopez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Lopez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 02:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forgot to say when I went back on deck in a few days after the crash and went to the rail where I was gonna jump overboard. I looked down about 20 feet to a gun turret. I wonder who grabbed me and told me not to jump??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgot to say when I went back on deck in a few days after the crash and went to the rail where I was gonna jump overboard. I looked down about 20 feet to a gun turret. I wonder who grabbed me and told me not to jump??</p>
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		<title>Comment on 1. The Pilot&#8217;s Story: Bruce Kallsen VA-115 by Bob Lopez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Lopez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 02:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you so much for sharing your story. I was on the deck that night waiting for our aircraft (VA-93) to come in and as AMH troubleshooter would check out any damage or neccesary repairs that needed. 
I was leaning on the UHT of one of our planes talking to one of our AD troublehooters when for some reason I looked at the A6 landing. I could not believe it crashed to the right side and was headed our way sideways. Automatically we headed up the deck. I felt and heard all hell break out behind and was thrown on the deck. I crawled into the catwalk and all I could think of as I could see fires, was the carrier crash movies I had seen. I thought it was all over and actually crawled up on the side to jump overboard. Someone grabbed me and said to go down to the hanger deck to get on a fire hose team. I started running down the catwalk and fell. Several sailors ran over the top of me. 
I made it to the hanger deck as GQ was going off and the crew was running everywhere. I went to the squadron Airframes shop and they asked what had happened. I told them the flight deck was on fire from a crash. My tool pouch didn&#039;t have a wrech or screwdriver in it. My vest, jersey and pants were ripped. They guys in the shop ask if I was OK. I said I am fine. They moved my ripped pants to the side and there was a piece of meat hanging out of my knee. I didn&#039;t feel it at all and later was told I was in shock.
They took me down the the mess deck(mass casualty station). Tables were broke down and blankets laid out on the deck. It was total chaos. People yelling and screaming. I was laid in a area off to the side of the main part and I looked around to see several bodies. I won&#039;t go into detail with what all I saw but it was hell. Corpman came by to work on me and I told them to leave me alone and work on worse cases. My Squadron CO came down there to see me and check on my condition. the mean in my knee was pushed in and sewed up. 
My mom got a telegram saying the crash had occured and I was one of the injured one. Another telegram would follow with the extent of the injuries. My mom did not deal well with this telegram but did appreciate the letter from our CO later.
I was given 72 hours off and went up on deck after my 72 hours went to the cat to kneel down and final check a wheelwell and ripped open my knee again. Oh well. I survived. Many others did not including AD2 McElwain who I heard was in navy hospitals for months before being medically discharge. 
I got so tired of all the drills. GQ and mass casaulty but they saved us that night. Midway Magic in action that night for real....
AMCS retired Bob Lopez</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you so much for sharing your story. I was on the deck that night waiting for our aircraft (VA-93) to come in and as <span class="caps">AMH</span> troubleshooter would check out any damage or neccesary repairs that needed.<br />
I was leaning on the <span class="caps">UHT</span> of one of our planes talking to one of our AD troublehooters when for some reason I looked at the A6 landing. I could not believe it crashed to the right side and was headed our way sideways. Automatically we headed up the deck. I felt and heard all hell break out behind and was thrown on the deck. I crawled into the catwalk and all I could think of as I could see fires, was the carrier crash movies I had seen. I thought it was all over and actually crawled up on the side to jump overboard. Someone grabbed me and said to go down to the hanger deck to get on a fire hose team. I started running down the catwalk and fell. Several sailors ran over the top of me.<br />
I made it to the hanger deck as GQ was going off and the crew was running everywhere. I went to the squadron Airframes shop and they asked what had happened. I told them the flight deck was on fire from a crash. My tool pouch didn&#8217;t have a wrech or screwdriver in it. My vest, jersey and pants were ripped. They guys in the shop ask if I was OK. I said I am fine. They moved my ripped pants to the side and there was a piece of meat hanging out of my knee. I didn&#8217;t feel it at all and later was told I was in shock.<br />
They took me down the the mess deck(mass casualty station). Tables were broke down and blankets laid out on the deck. It was total chaos. People yelling and screaming. I was laid in a area off to the side of the main part and I looked around to see several bodies. I won&#8217;t go into detail with what all I saw but it was hell. Corpman came by to work on me and I told them to leave me alone and work on worse cases. My Squadron CO came down there to see me and check on my condition. the mean in my knee was pushed in and sewed up.<br />
My mom got a telegram saying the crash had occured and I was one of the injured one. Another telegram would follow with the extent of the injuries. My mom did not deal well with this telegram but did appreciate the letter from our CO later.<br />
I was given 72 hours off and went up on deck after my 72 hours went to the cat to kneel down and final check a wheelwell and ripped open my knee again. Oh well. I survived. Many others did not including <span class="caps">AD2 </span>McElwain who I heard was in navy hospitals for months before being medically discharge.<br />
I got so tired of all the drills. GQ and mass casaulty but they saved us that night. Midway Magic in action that night for real&#8230;.<br />
<span class="caps">AMCS</span> retired Bob Lopez</p>
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